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The Papillon is a wonderful breed of dog. 

Forevr Papillons receives a lot of email inquires that include questions about Paps.  Some of the common questions are about health, hair, coat, fringe, teeth, eyes, tear stains, & temperament.

Papillon Frequenlty Asked Questions

Here are a few of our most frequently asked questions. 

If you have additional questions write us at:  Forevr@showpaps.com
If your looking for advice on a Pap you own ... please remember it is free advice from our donated time.  We will answer when we have the time to do so. Advice will be truthful honest information and because it is free... it will not be sugar coated for you to hear exactly what your wanting to hear.  AND we are not in training to be the Dear Abby of  Papillons!


Question: What is the right way to say Papillon?

Answer: The correct pronunciation for Papillon is (pappy-yawn) meaning butterfly. Papillons come in two different varieties; the erect eared that is most often seen or the drop eared that is called a Phalène (fa-lyn) which means moth. 

Incidentally, the word Papillon and Phalene are actually breed varieties of the Epagneul Nain Continental, Continental Toy Spaniel. The name Squirrel Spaniel has also been used. In the United States the American Kennel Club recognizes the breed as the Papillon with the Phalene being considered as a variety of the Papillon.


Question: Are Papillons smart?

Answer: Papillons are intelligent & a very trainable breed. They are ranked as the number 1 toy obedience breed.  We also know of Pap's that compete in tracking and excel in agility. In addition, they do make great therapy dogs.   

Question: Can Papillons live together with other pets?

Answer:  Papillons normally fit in quite well in households with other pets providing the owners supervise playtime, especially other large breeds of dogs.   Homes with much larger dogs have to consider problems that can happen when a small and large dog play hard together. There have been many accidents where a Papillon has received serious injuries caused by other breeds of dogs. Most reputable breeder take great caution placing their Paps in homes. Many breeders will not sell a Papillon to a home that already has a large or potentially aggressive pet.


Question: Are Papillons nervous and do they bark a lot?

Answer: In most cases Papillons are not naturally a nervous or barky breed, but there are some that fit that description.  At times our Papillons will bark, usually it is when the doorbell rings or something interests them for example; like a Squirrel or the neighbors cat. On the whole they are fairly quite and because they are smart, training them to learn the words "no bark" is rather easy.  

House Training:

Question: Are Papillon easy to housebreak?

Answer:  We have had good luck in housebreaking Pap's as single only companion papillon.  Dedication to housetraining is a must and the dogs should be placed on a schedule and housed in a crate when not attended to for best results.

Question: My daughter has a male Papillon, he is now 5 months old.  Since the day she brought himhome, at age 9 weeks, he has wet on his bedding and then laid on it.  Is this marking?  What should she do about it?  She does crate him, but he wets on the bedding in his crate.

Answer: Since I do not know how long your puppy is crated or your home situation I can only generalize my answer.  My first thought is that a Papillon puppy has a small bladder and needs to be taken outside frequently.  Is this marking, NO.  Marking is peeing on their territory to keep other males away.

Is there water left in the crate?  Could your puppy be allowed to drink a lot of water prior to being crated?  Remember potty training/crate training is similar to humans.  If you don't want your kid to wet the bed, then you take away their water before bedtime and always make sure they have ample opportunity to be let outside.  Another thought to consider is.... Are you monitoring that your puppy is actually peeing when he goes outside?  Many times their yard is so interesting they do not take the time to do something as mundane as peeing.  Do not leave your puppy in the crate for no more than 4 hours.  Less is better, they just can't last that long.


Question: Do Papillons have any temperaments problems I, should be aware of? 

Answer:  The breed on the whole is a happy go lucky outgoing breed.  A Papillon that exhibits signs of growling, snapping, or fear is not a normal breed temperament characteristic. Usually a Pap that shows signs of bad temperaments have not been sufficiently socialized or at some point were mistreated. 

Question:  Last night we noticed very aggressive behavior . It was like this pup lost its mind , nothing I had ever seen before ! He would have a certain look in his eyes , show his teeth , growl , nip , jump for no apparent reason , this happened twice within maybe an hours time .

Is this normal behavior ? Would this be corrected if he was neutered ?

I was wondering if by chance this could be a problem with the mother having too many litters in a year ?

What is the problem with this pup ?

Answer:  What you are describing is not a typical Papillon temperament, I don't think something like this could be cause because the mother was over bred. It could be caused for many other reasons though.

Bad temperaments bred together to produce another bed temperament.
Lack of proper human socialization.
Fear (could this dog have possible been mistreated in some manner?)

Neutering may help this Pap be less aggressive, but there are no guarantee's. It is a agreesivness is a breed characteristic that is NOT desirable and we would  recommend neutering.

May I suggest your friends signing onto the Papfriends email list, there are several behaviorist there who might be able to assist you. You can sign on by going to www.papfriends.com Or they may want to consider enrolling in a basic obedience course. I would look for an instructor that is experienced in Toy dogs.


Question: What is the height of an adult Papillon?

Answer: The Papillon height measured from the floor to the top of the shoulder blades is between 8 - 12 inches. A dog that measures over 11 and 12 inches is consider by the AKC Papillon breed standard to be a fault. The average size of an adult Papillon is 9 1/2 to 10 3/4 inches with an approximate weight between 4 to 9 pounds.


Question:  I would like to buy a Pap for my family. Are they especially good around kids? 

Answer:  Extra care should be taken and rules should be established when Papillons live with young children. They do make great family dogs however they are a small breed.  Paps and can be injured, (in some cases fatally) and bones can be broken with rough treatment or when suddenly dropped. Some breeders will not sell a Papillon to families with small children in the household.
Male x Female:

Question:  Do male or female Papillons make better pets?

Answer:  We feel and most other experienced breeders will agree, that both sex's are excellent pets, but there are slight differences between a male and female.  We have found in the past that most males are a bit more loving and will adore their families and make great house pets.  A female loves you to worship & dote on her.  Acquiring a male as a pet is usually easier to find than a female.

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Question: I have a Papillon puppy. The ears where standing up when I bought him. Now they are down. Why did his ears go down? Someone mentioned shaving the hair, do you do this?  

Answer:  As puppies mature they teeth and go thru growth where the calcium levels change in the body.  If you purchased an erect eared puppy and the ears get soft and flop, almost always they will return to the normal butterfly appearance. Sometimes adding cottage cheese, plain yogurt or calcium to their food will assist in bringing their ears erect again. In most cases we do not recommend shaving the ear to help it stand erect again.
Tear Stains:

Question:  My Pap has tear stains under her eyes.  Should I be worried?

Answer: Eye staining can be caused by a number of factors.  Allergies, blocked or infected eye ducts and even stress can cause staining.  The first thing to do is have your vet check and see if there is any infection of the tear ducts.  If that is the case a treatment with antibiotics is indicated.  Sometimes the tear ducts actually get blocked and have to be opened up in order for them to work properly.  The problem that usually causes any staining is the change in the pH of the tears.

Question: Have you had any that Paps that are over sized? My Pap is 14 inches and 19 lbs. I am wondering if he is a mixed breed.

Answer:  If he looks like a Pap and acts like a Pap he probably is a Pap! Big Papillons do happen from time to time. The origin of  Papillons are not completely known.  Hundreds of years ago when the breed originated they were called  the Epagneul Nain Continental, or Continental Toy Spaniel.  The Papillon was just
one variety of that breed. This indicates the Papillons were bred from Spaniel decent.  Traditionally Spaniels are a larger dog. A big Papillon gene can crop up occasionally.  Sometimes people will breed a large male to a large female and get a whopping large size puppy! Large Papillons can make great performance dogs or pets.


Question: I took my Papillon to the groomer.  They cut off the hair and fringe from his ears.  Will the ear fringe grow back?

Answer: Your Papillon is not the first to experience the un-knowledgeable scissor happy groomer.   In most cases, Yes,  fringes will grow back. It will take awhile, we are talking a minimum to 6 months, or maybe even up to1 year.

Question: I have got a pap who is 2 yrs old & is a wonderful pet. however, I realized that her fur doesn't seem to be growing to be as long as those pap's I see on the net. Her fur doesn't seem to be growing long. 

Answer:  Coat length or the amount of coat a Papillon has can be caused by many reasons.  Genetics, food, environmental, health or grooming could be five separate reasons for a dog to have short coat.  Genetics; if the dogs in your dogs pedigree (family tree) all carry a short coat than your dog genetically will not grow a long draping coat.  Food; In most inexpensive food contains a lot of fillers and very little nutrients.  If your dog is not getting enough nutritional value in their daily intake this can prevent hair growth.  Environmental;  a continuous warm climate can cause a dog not to grow long hair.  If the dog is left outside for long periods of time in a warm climate it is almost certain their coat will not be full and long.  Health; various health problems can cause the coat to be dull and sparse.  Grooming; rough treatment to the coat with a brush or slicker can cause the hair to be ripped out causing unneeded hair loss.  Extra care is needed when brushing ear fringes especially the fine red fringes.

Question:  I am at a total loss of how to stop heavy hair loss on my 2 year old Pap. She has lots of allergies. Itching skin and heavy hair loss. I feed Science Diet for sensitive skin and sensitive stomach. Brushing and combing is done regularly. Very constant hair loss and very heavy.  Is this a normal condition for a Papillon? My Vet. has not been able to stop his, even by giving allergy injections. Your assistance would be greatly appreciated. Any suggestions you have that would help this poor little thing stop itching and scratching.

Answer:  What you have described is not normal coat conditions for a Papillon.

Do not use any coat product that would dry out your dogs skin. Try bathing weekly with a Tar and Sulfur shampoo (human will do), light conditioner (no perfumes) or an Oatmeal type shampoo. You may want to try purchasing our Vellus Satin Cream for dry red spots, there are no guarantee's, but it may help. Winter also keeps the coat and skin dried out.

You may want to try some vitamin E, oil or bacon dripping on the food to internally replenish the skin with oils.

If your dog is shedding excessively or has patches of balding hair I would suggest another trip back to your vet, possible have him take a blood panel and check for thyroid problems.

Question: Whenever my Papillon shakes, her fur would fall out. I would like to know if it's common for Pap's to shed so much fur.

Answer: A Papillon is a single coated breed & will lose small amounts coat on a daily bases. Since they should not have a undercoat, their coat does not need a lot of care. Daily or weekly brushing of the Paps coat will keep shedding at a minimum.  Papillons will shed, blow coat or turn over coat a couple of times a year.  In the spring they will lose their winter coat.  In the fall some dogs will have a slight coat blow before growing a denser winter coat.  Loss of dead hair and regrowth of new hair is a normal occurrence.  If your dogs sheds excessively or has patches of balding hair a trip to your veterinarian and a thyroid check may be needed.

Question:  My pap puppy is 10 weeks old tomorrow and one of her ears is already standing up straight most of the time. The other one, however, is still flopped downward like the first one was one week ago. The breeder says the ears usually pop up around 12 weeks, but can be up and down for a few months. I've been massaging the muscle at the base of the ear more now to stimulate it, but it hasn't improved in the past week. I was just wondering if there were any papillons with one ear up, one down, and if it is common enough for me to be concerned about it?

Answer:  Your breeder has given you correct information about the ups and downs of Papillon puppies ears. As they go through the teething process there are changes in their calcium levels that affect the ability of the cartilage in the ears. In most cases if the ears once stood erect, they will be erect as an adult. About the only think you can do to assist the ears is to give your puppy calcium. We prefer to give calcium in natural form by adding a tablespoon of cottage cheese to the food. There are other methods of taping and propping up the ear, creams or shaving the hair from the ear. We do not find these methods to have had great success.

Just let nature take its course and wait for your butterfly to emerge from its caterpillar state!


Question:  I bought my papillon in 1999.  Gizmo is one of 3 dogs I own.  Inever considered a papillon, but fell in love with him, and got a deal due to the fact that he is not show quality-He has an overbite, which is my fav part of him.  I recently noticed that his front two teeth are very loose. What is the cause of this, and will it do any harm if he loses them?  He eats fine with his back teeth.
Teeth or no teeth I will forever love him!

Answer: Papillons build up a lot of tarter on their teeth and need routine annual dental cleaning by the veterinarian. I suggest to all my puppy buyers that they purchase an infants size tooth brush and brush their dogs teeth on a regular basis. It doesn't prevent tooth decay and loss, but brushing does help.

It is not unusual for a 3 year old Papillon to have lost or to have already lost a front tooth and very common if they have not had regular dental care. It will not hurt you dogs eating habits by losing the front teeth. With his overbite he probably seldom used them for eating.

Another possibility is that his gums are red and inflamed. That is potentially gingivitis. Prior to dental cleaning many vets will prescribe a antibiotic to get any gum infection under control prior.

Question: Help ! I have had an accident this morning with my puppy and need to know if I have done permanent damage.  I was turning a lamp on this morning and when I went to walk away my puppy was sitting on the sofa and I accidentally hit him on the side of his jaw.  He yelped and was bleeding and I looked inside his mouth I saw that he lost his Canine Fang.  Please tell me that this is his puppy tooth.  It was hardly a hard hit and if he hadn't made a yelp I would have thought nothing of it.  He is a 5 month old Papillon and will be 6 months on March 5th.  I have a dog book and it says that they loose their canine fangs between 4 and 7 months.  I dont see anything coming in beneath it so I am frantic that I may have accidentally knocked out his tooth.  Please let me know, I am frantic and very upset and worried  !  Thank you,

Answer:  Don't worry to much!  More than likely your puppy has just lost his infant canine.  Pap puppies usually lose their canines between 5-61/2 months of age.  Watch out for the other canines and make sure that the other adult teeth do not come down next to the infant teeth.  Many times these teeth have very long roots and they must be removed by the veterinarian.  Give plenty of chewies, hooves, and other safe toys to chew on. Keeping your puppy entertained and busy  may assist in loosening  up a stubborn tooth! 

New Enviroment

Question:  Hello, I purchased a  pap from a breeder yesterday and have some concerns. what concerns me is that she seems to be aggressive toward my other dog. the other dog is a 4.5 month old shih tzu and she is 5 months old. she has perked up a little in the 24 hrs. we have had her, but she also tends to run from me as I walk toward her or around her. she licks me and lets me hold her and I wondered if I should give it time and she'll loosen up or if this is something i should worry about. I don't think she was socialized well around other people or stranger dogs. she did fine while I was at her breeders home. She was submissive toward the other dogs there. there were several other dogs including chiuahua's, excuse the spelling, and papillions. I would appreciate any ideas or suggestions you could give me. thank you so much
Answer: Since your dog is not a Forevr Puppy we do not know the environment or the breeder that your puppy came from.  Our best advice is to go back to the person you purchased your new Papillon puppy from.  They are the breeder of the dog and know the dog personally.  If they are an experienced reputable breeder, they should be knowledgeable enough about their dogs to give you the advice you seek.

It may well be that your puppy is a submissive pup, or lacks confidence.  Ultimately it is up to you to decide whether this dog will work in your household.  We suggest to all our puppy buyers that it can take up to 6 weeks for a new puppy to become settled into their new home and schedule. Depending on the home, sometimes a dog does need to become adjusted to the culture shock of changing to a new environment
Hernia & Testicles

Question: My wife and I are planning on bringing an 11-week old male Papillon into our home the week of the Fourth of July.  We are buying him from a very reputable show breeder who has been a God-send as far as openness and honesty goes.  I wish they could all be as helpful as she has been.
We got a call from her this weekend, saying that the puppy had had to be taken to the vet for a minor surgery to repair an umbillical hernia that had developed.  She also had the vet check the position of the puppy's testicals while he was working up in there.  The vet said the testicles were in the prime position to drop when they got ready to, although one is smaller than the other.
Seeing the puppy is so young, I am not surprised they haven't dropped yet.  Does the situation sound as if anything needs to be of a concern?
Your opinion would be appreciated

Answer: An umbilical hernia in most cases is caused at birth by some sort of trauma to the umbilical.  Many times this is caused by the person whelping the litter. People have a tendency to get impatient or excited while pulling on the placenta and puppy when trying to get them out.  It has happened to us all occasionally.

In most cases, not all cases, by 9 weeks the testicles are already down. If your purchasing a show prospect & the puppies testis's are not dropped by 12 weeks, I would seek an opinion from you own veterinarian.  If the testis's are still high in the groin it is possible the will never come down.  It is not unusual for all creatures to have different sizes of testicles.  The longer the testis's stay internal the less likely they are to descend and with time the internal body heat can diminish the size. There can be a family history of retained testicles. 

Heat Cycle:

Question:  We have a one year old feamle who recently went into heat, we are going to have her fixed after she comes out of heat due to being a extra small papillon, is it unusal for her to loose her playfulness and energetic spirit during this time and do they bounce back after surgery

Answer: It is not uncommon for Papillons to experience "PMS" during their first season.  All I can say is baby her, she'll be back to normal in about 14 days. Make sure you keep her on a tight leash, so to speak... Teenage girls sometimes don't make good selections when picking boyfriends.  :) Usually there is little difference in the personalities and energy after spaying.  They do tend to put on weight after spaying and you may have to monitor her food intake.

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