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   Danny & Ruth Ann Ford, 20 years of Dedicated Experienced  Breeding of Exclusive Quality Butterfly Dogs

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Forevr Litter Box Training

Here at Forevr Paps we litter box train all our young puppies.

We find that it is an easy, clean method to help us in the raising of our Papillon kids.  

Our Pet companion homes love it!  

And there are so many advantages to litter training.  

Apartment dwellers with no yard can use a litterbox,  no need to walk a dog when staying in a hotel, or bad weather prevents you and your dog  from being outside for too long.

Please note, Litter training is not ment to train your dog to never be able to go potty outside.  It is to be used to help assist young dogs while being house trained.  Puppies that are litter boxed trained can successfully use a litter box and also go outside.

This is how we train our puppies...

At about 3 weeks of age we put a cookie sheet with litter in the puppy pen. The puppies will start quickly crawling over to the pan to go... 

Sometimes they have the front legs in and the hind end hanging out of the pan, but hey!
the pups get an "A" for effort.

Around 5 weeks of age our little puppy furkids are starting to grow, climb and play more. 

At this time we graduate them to a regular Dollar Store $2.00 plastic cat litter pan. Which they keep permanently when we move them into their own space later on later on in the puppy room.

Some people like to purchase a covered cat pan to use in their home when male house dog starts to lift their leg.

Our puppy room is located just three steps from our living room. It is a room that we built just for our puppies as they are growing up.  The puppy apartments were custom made for Forevr Papillons. Each room of the puppy apartment is large, safe, & easy to clean.  In their rooms the bottom is lined with white paper, on top of the paper is clean bedding, toy, chewies and  the litter pan.  Of course, their rooms also have a hanging water bowl and free feeding boxes with dry food for when they pups get the munchies.


The litter pan that is in each puppies room we clean a minimum of two times a day and change the litter completely twice a week. If the pan doesn't stay clean the puppies will tend to poop "out of the box" or make mistakes.

Forevr puppies have morning and evening playtimes for several hours. We have a larger plastic storage box that we keep filled about 1 inch of litter. They almost line up to go in the box. 

It is not a perfect system I'd say works 75% of the time when they are lose in the kitchen and almost 95% in their own rooms. Our paper changing has dramatically cut by over half of what it was.

The pet owners that receive our pups, love it!

The litter is compressed wood pellets that is used for wood burning stoves. It wont hurt the puppies if they happen to consume some and when they urinate on the litter it turns to sawdust. But after a taste as lil pups will occasionally do, mine don't try to eat the pellets. The litter can be thrown away in the trash or poured into flower beds. and CHEAP! About $2.80 for a 40 lb bag.

We tried cat litter several years ago and that wasn't for us! Much to much like gravel with the dust and dirt. Please be aware the puppies can kick around the sawdust and you will probably need to vacuum the area daily. Which we do anyway.
This method is hard to train for older puppies and if you purchase a puppy that is not litter trained you must dedicate you and your family to litter training a puppy. We tried with 12 week olds that had not been litter trained early and it was a no go. We are starting to use it in the rooms of the older adult dogs and they are starting to use the litter box if they can't hold it between trips outside.

We are extremely pleased with the results and so are the people who have a Forevr Puppy!

Meet Joeleen Atkinson and her Pap Puppy Sophie.


Sophie and Joeleen, pictured doing the Hi-five from the first moment they met!


Below is their litter box story.

Hello Ruth Ann and Danny,     
     The reason I'm writing is that I have a little story for you. I've done some research  on the web and as far as litter box training for small dogs, we are the pioneers. So with that in mind. I thought I'd share my experience and maybe it will  help others. If you agree that it would be helpful,  your more than welcome to share with anyone. So here goes.


On December 20th 2002 I received the most wonderful puppy. She rode in the car for 4 hours and never went potty. I brought her into the house and placed a litter box filled with wood stove pellets in the middle of the room. I set Sophie down showed her the box. She walked away and sniffed around the carpet. About 5 to 10 minutes went by and all of a sudden Sophie runs to the litter box , jumps in and pees. My jaw dropped, I knew that Ruth Ann said she was litter trained, but this was a new environment and  that changes things, so I wasn't sure what to expect. A few minutes after she wet in the litter box , she goes back and poops. Again my jaw dropped, what joy !!! A trained puppy.   Things are great...except for one thing. I also have a kitten that's 6 months old.  Sammy ( the cat ) uses clay clumping litter, while Sophie uses the wood pellets. At least that's what I hoped for . What started happening is that the cat would use the dogs litter and Sophie would use the cat's litter. What a mess, the pellets didn't work well at all for cat waste. So I gradually started changing to clumping clay mixing the pellets and the clay. I figure if they want to share the litter box who am I to argue.  Several weeks go by and things are going quite well. Then all of a sudden Sophie has an "accident"  Well she is a puppy and that's to be expected, right? Then she has more accidents.  I read all the housebreaking info I can get my hands on. When she has an accident unless I catch her in the act, I just clean it up and don't say anything. If I catch her in the act I say no and place her in the litter box. Things still keep going down hill . Next I confine her to the crate at night to sleep, and the large master bathroom with the crate open while I'm at work.  Still not much of an improvement. Ok , I figure timing is everything so when I come home at night and feed her. I keep her on a leash with me until she goes. I'm sitting right near the litter box and waiting, I glance at the TV and she poops all right, on the carpet. This is not going well. I'm at my wits end. What happened, why are things falling apart?? I search the net for advice, nothing there. According to all the books and advice I can find  I'm doing it all right. I praise and reward every time she does use the litter . Still things aren't going well at all. I'm not giving up though. I reduced the number of litter boxes, and I researched a type of litter that's made of recycled paper . It's supposed to be odor absorbing not clumping and not clay. I thought let's give it a try, what have I got to lose? I empty the 2 boxes of Sophie's one in the bathroom where she stays during the day and the only other is in the family room where we spend the rest of our time. I laid down one of the puppy pads in the box and covered it with the new litter. It's just like the wood pellets except smaller. She jumps in and right away she relives herself. Happy days are here again!!!! not one accident, 5 days and counting. The moral of the story is don't mess with the litter. Even though Sophie still goes in the cat's box  once in a while (with the clay litter ). I believe that's a dominance issue. She prefers the other litter. Took me long enough, but I think I finally got it. I hope that some day there will be more information available for small dogs and litter training but for now, we are on our own. It can be so successful  but, you must be persistent finding what works.



  My name is Jennifer and I live in Fresno, Ca.  I stumbled onto your website a week ago and was interested in litter training puppies.  I have been looking for a small breed dog and wanted to litter train.  I thought that litter training would be impossible.  Your site made it look so easy! So I went to my Home Depot store and I bought the wood pellets just like you said.
  Guess what last night I bought two peekapoos, and I was ready to tackle this feat.  After they were through eating dinner I set the two pups in the box, and to my great astonishment one went pee pee right there in front of me.  I couldn't believe it, just like you said.  I had no luck with the other one and figured he just didn't have to go.  I went to sleep and the first night is always such a long one.  The morning count they had gone poopy 2 times and pee pee 2 times and only one  pee pee outside the box.  They are doing spectacular.
  I want to personally thank you for your wonderful internet site of info, and also for the great pics (I probably wouldn't have tried it if it weren' for the pics).  These pups are only 6 weeks, and by 8 weeks they will probably be doing great.  Thank you so much for all your help.


More about Compressed Pellets.

Someone inquired about the disclaimer on the Wood Stove Pellets.  That stated the following 

"This product is not for consumption by humans or animals."

In our opininon, Wood Stove Pellets are not specifically sold for dog consumption which is why they would have a disclaimer on the bag. Wood Stove pellets are a compressed wood sawdust without bark that is environmentally friendly.  We have used brands called Premium Pellets for wood burning stoves and Woody Pellets used in horse stalls.  We have seen no ill side effects from the use of the compressed wood pellets while raising our own litters of Papillon Puppies.  Of course you must use any product under your own discretion and common sense. 

We feel sometimes pet consumers get charged for fancy packaging when they can find the same product for less with a different name in plain packaging.

In fact we did a quick Google search on wood pellet litter below are some of the links. While searching, we also happened to find several links for animal shelters asking for wood pellets on their donation wish list.

Flint River

Flint River Ranch produces an all natural, environmentally safe, Cat & Kitten Litter made from wood fiber. It is designed to reduce weekly litter costs and protect cats from harmful clay ingestion. Wood fiber litters have been around
for about 10 - 12 years in some form - pellets, sawdust or shavings.


Western Wood Pellets

Here is a site from the UK that sells soft wood sawdust cat litter.


Second Nature dog litter is a pellet made from paper and wood pulp.


Smart Cat Litter Products & Other Smart Pet Products
Smart Cat Wood Based Cat Litter is unique in being made from Soft Wood
residues that are processed into Wood Flour before being pelletised.

Message board: wood pellet questions


Sacremento Rabbit Society

Wood stove pellets are inexpensive, non-toxic, odor-absorbing, and easy to find-unless they're out of season. From early spring until fall, they can be scarce. During the winter months, wood stove pellets can be located in almost
all home supply warehouses (like Home Depot & Lowes), and even in some Raley's supermarkets.


Rabbit Org.

At the bottom of this page there is a litter comparison that is written by the rabbit society. Apparently there is a problem with using Cedar Chips, causing the Rabbits to have a liver disease problem.
They have noted that compressed sawdust pellets is:
Low in dust, Good to Excellent in absorbency, health hazards - none observed.


*Disclaimer - These are just our opinions after compiling information from other animal sites, products and organizations.  Forevr Papillons & Phalenes, Danny and Ruth Ann Ford, does not consider themselves authorities on compressed wood pellets and they are only sharing their experience and litter training success with the people who visit their page.  After visiting this page, Danny & Ruth Ann, Ford, Forevr Papillons, Phalenes & Showdogs are not to be held liable for any ill effects that might occure from the use of  any brand of compressed wood pellets.

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